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I am on quite a few Ning sites and some of them are closing down because of this outrage and moving to other sites on the web -- which myself, had offers from some members that they would help in donating to the cause of keeping my site open, but I have decided I did not want to give into this brutality of Ning and made the decision of closing my site down -- but many that I have talked to in the Pagan community are using PayPal donations for their site to keep them running.

I have tried Spruz and Wackwall -- both of which are similar to Ning layouts -- but have decided to move myself over to SocialGO; do not know how long they will keep their Free networking, but their layouts are nice and Premium is on the high side if one had to pay, though is wonderful especially if one has community involvement with a group or events outside of the web in their lives.

It's ashamed that this has happened, though there are many sides of the coin to configure, but I just tend to 'go with the flow' and look at the bright side of things: it's something new, rebirthing, of bigger and better things, moving on and working with what opportunities I have.

Blessings )O(
~Shamanic Winds
as you know I already syndicate many animism blogs through newanimism.info and I have an insane amount of web space and bandwidth and host a few other unrelated projects with it. I could easily expand my current syndiclation blog to incorporate a discussion forum and maybe some social networking features. I like to work with opensource content management software and there is one cald elgg which is designed to be an opensource social network alternitive. I have been wanting to try out but have not had an excuse to implement . . . and would except donations to keep the service running. The advantages is we would be in control of our data, and would not have to deal with the games of corporate projects (like ning) the down side is the userbase would be entirely internal but there might be ways to integrate into facebook, myspace, or twitter.
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as you know I already syndicate many animism blogs through newanimism.info and I have an insane amount of web space and bandwidth and host a few other unrelated projects with it. I could easily expand my current syndiclation blog to incorporate a discussion forum and maybe some social networking features.

This sounds like a good idea if ning gives us trouble, I have been playing around with python (a dynamically-typed programming language) and this sounds like a great project. I would be happy to help if you heed any. The ning features we use seem fairly simple to implement and we can always add more stuff later.

I like to work with opensource content management software and there is one cald elgg which is designed to be an opensource social network alternitive. I have been wanting to try out but have not had an excuse to implement .

I'm not sure that elgg is the right program to use as it seems to be very Facebook-esque (most things in subgroups of users instead of the entire network). I think what we need is really more of a discussion-board/blog/photo-gallery with profiles (like the current ning).
If push came to shove probably the easiest solution would be to integrate bbpress with newanimism.info which runs wordpress. bbpress is designed and managed by the same folks.

admittedly I am not a programmer/developer, and I didn't know you could work with python on a web format. My webhost has some limited python support, I think. It is mostly setup for PHP/mySQL combonation, but also for perl and ruby. So it would be possible to build something from scratch to whomever had the know how (but that is out of my realm of expertise).

Elgg does have a discussion board extention, but i dont know how it function - it was just at thought..
Wackwall offer an open source version of their social network platform which is very Ning like.
Teach them a lesson ditch NING! even if it remains free for some...
wackwall is interesting, looks as if it is still in an early beta stage - which is fine depending on how stable the beta is. They will have available the open source platform they run that can be installed on a personal server too.
Wackwall has a good reputation, and problems with Open Source platforms tend to get fixed more quickly than for 'Closed Source' ones!
Its all gone very quiet here since this started...

Anyway Ning have revealed their charges, you can see them here:
http://about.ning.com/announcement/?xg_source=announcement_bar

and read other people's thoughts on the blog:
http://blog.ning.com/

I feel ripped off, but at $3 per month I guess I'll pay to keep this thing going. We'll then have to contend with a membership limit of 150, but I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it. We may get into a situation where we have to weed the membership from time to time removing inactive accounts, or it may be that I can set up a virtual collecting tin to pay for the next level up. It does seem strange that there is such an enormous jump, $3 for 150 members and then $20 for unlimites, how about $3 for each 150 members? Anyway this is the situation.

Comments anyone?
What about tribe.net
Could be something worth looking into,if you havn't already.

S.P.
I just got back from a wonderful retreat on the Isle of Iona and this is a bit of a brutal reminder of the "real" world... but I suppose this is life in 2010. Personally, I would find it quite a shame to start anew and loose all the discussions on this site, with no guarantee that in a few months time the same thing might happen again. If it is a matter of 3 quid a month, I guess that's not too bad. Maybe you could put a "support this site" piggy bank somewhere, Corwen and we could all put a bit of money together? That would also show a certain level of commitment...
I think you are right Heike, I'll pay the $3 per month initially but I'll add a donations box (this will become possible once the new Ning is rolled out). Any surplus can go to Survival International.

We will lose a few features, such as events, the music player, uploaded videos and chat, but there are ways around this I think- events can be announced on the forum or in blogs, videos and sounds can be linked to if they reside on another server somewhere. The header may also have to be redesigned as the cheap plan doesn't allow you to change the CSS, but I'm sure most people won't notice!

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